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Current PHRF Rating Application

ECSA Rating Policy (updated 10/2007)

PHRF Ratings(updated 9/10//2008)
PHRF Meeting Minutes

                          EAST COAST SAILING ASSOCIATION
                          
2007 Ratings Chairman is Jim Miller
                                     777-7011
seapgrp@aol.com 

 

                           

To All;
 
The renewal of PHRF Ratings takes place every April-May. The Rating Renewal fee is $10 made payable to ECSA. The renewal fee applies to all active PHRF racing boats. It does not apply to Rum Racers which are shown on the PHRF Data Base.
 
If you entered the ECSA River Races and paid your annual fee the PHRF Rating Fee is included. Hasty Miller has updated the spreadsheet showing those who are paid up. This renewal fee can be mailed to me or left for me at Melbourne Yacht Club.
 
If you recently applied for a rating (since January) you do not have to pay the annual fee for this year. Please check the data base to see if you are mark paid. If you are in doubt or your boat is not listed please contact me and Hasty Miller.
 
Thanks;
 
Jim Miller, Chairman
PHRFECSA
 

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EAST COAST SAILING ASSOCIATION

PHRF COMMITTEE MEETING

August 18, 2008

MINUTES

The meeting was called to order at 6:00 PM.

Attendees:

·         Jim Miller, Chairman

·         Jim Edwards, ECSA

·         Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club

·         Jim Henry, MYC

Guests : Numerous Guests including Gary Smith, Jerry Ross and Alan Jepson.

The following action was taken by the Committee.

1.        The PHRF Rating Committee took action on the application for the Catalina 27 owned by Gary Smith and Lachlan Smith. The boat is a standard rig Catalina 27. The boat is to be fitted with an inboard, however in the interim it will be sailed as an outboard model with the engine removed. Since the data base already had a Catalina 27 the base rating of 204 was assigned to this boat. There were a number of modifications to the boat which were disclosed to the Committee including extended mast crane, refairing of the rudder, new mast head crane/block. These items were not considered to alter the  base rating.

2.        The Committee also discussed the work on rating certificates and renewals for next year.

Meeting was adjourned at 7:30PM.

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                         EAST COAST SAILING ASSOCIATION

                                        PHRF COMMITTEE MEETING

                                                              November 5, 2007

                                           MINUTES

 

 

The meeting was called to order at 6:00PM.

Attendes:

Jim Miller, Chairman

Hasty Miller, Chief Handicapper

Jim Edwards, Melbourne Yacht Club

Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club

Mike Nulf, Indian River Yacht Club

Jim Yates, ECSA

Guests: Numerous Guests including Gary Smith, Harry Stapor, Ross Herbert, Jim Lacy,
Dave Noble, Rochelle Yates and others.

 

The following actions was taken by the Committee:

The PHRF Rating Committee took up the issue of Crew Weights which was requested by
Gary Smith. Although this is not an itme subject to appeal the Committee took considerable information and opionions from those present. The Committee took no specific action on this item but will continue to consider what modifications or additions need to be made to this part of the rule. A straw vote of the skippers present indicated support for weight limits as adopted.

 

The appeal of the Lindenberg 28 appeal was withdrawn by Gary Smith. The Committee took no action on this item.

 

The Committee was asked to consider the rating fee for 2008 which will be discussed more fully at the next meeting.

 

There was a brief discussion of the Rules of Sailing and how they relate to the PHRF Rules and One Design Class Rules.

 

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EAST COAST SAILING ASSOCIATION

PHRF COMMITTEE MEETING

October 8, 2007

MINUTES

 

The meeting was called to order at 5:30 PM.

Attendees:

·         Jim Miller, Chairman

·         Hasty Miller, Chief Handicapper

·         Jim Edwards, Melbourne Yacht Club

·         Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club

·         Mike Young, Indian River Yacht Club

 

Guests Floyd Bryan, Phil Scalise, John Harrison

 
The following action was taken by the Committee.

1.        The PHRF Committee discussed the Melges 24 Rating, however no action was taken. It was noted that for ODR Classes such as the Melges 24 they must comply with all ODR requirements including weight limits. Further it was decided that this includes hiking guidelines of the ODR Class.

2.        The C&C 115, Modified owned by Bob Scaringe was under appeal. The PHRF Committee took no action and therefore there is no change in the rating.

3.        The PHRF Committee took up Crew/Weight Limits. It was decided that since other ODR Classes must comply with their weight limits while sailing in PHRF events that similar weight limits should be imposed for other PHRF Class Boats. These weight limits represent a modification to the PHRF Rule and become a part of each respective boat’s rating.  The adopted weight limits follow:

Up To and Including:         
                             22.5 Feet                 720 Lbs.       

25.0                                                            900

27.5                                                            1080

30.0                                                            1260

32.5                                                            1440

35.0                                                            1620

37.5                                                            1800

40.0                                                            1980

42.5                                                            2160

45.0                                                            2340

50.0                                                            2520

55.0                                                            2700

60.0                                                            2880

65.0                                                            3060

70.0                        3240                                  

 

4.        The PHRF Spreadsheet and associated ratings were discussed. It was confirmed that boats carrying a pole penalty will have that penalty applied in their non-spinnaker rating.

 

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PHRF COMMITTEE MEETING

JULY 16, 2007

MINUTES

 

The meeting was called to order at 5:30 PM.

Attendee

·         Jim Miller, Chairman

·         Hasty Miller, Chief Handicapper

·          Larry Ethridge, Melbourne Yacht Club

·         Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club

·         Jim Yates, ECSA

Guests : Jim Edwards, Floyd Bryan, Phil Spletter, Bob Hughes, Jim Lacy, Dave Noble, Rochelle Yates, John Tworkowski.

The following action was taken by the Committee.

1.        The PHRF Rating Committee reviewed the rating for the J-24 Modified owned by Dave Noble. As a result of that review including race results and modifications to the boat the Base Rating was reduced from 171 to 168. This rating is provisional and will be reviewed again after additional race results can be reviewed.

2.        The PHRF Committee reviewed the PHRF Rating Credits. These include propeller adjustments, dacron sail adjustments, roller furling adjustments, etc. The Committee made a change to the Dacron Sail Adjustment as follows:

Dacron Sail Adjustment   
Up to 30 Feet:                       3 Seconds/Mile
 

Above 30 Feet:                     6 Seconds/Mile

                                           
All other credits remain unchanged.

3.        The PHRF Committee considered a recommendation to assign a Base Rating less 6 sec/mile for any class boat with reviewable modifications. The Committee rejected this proposal instead relying on the current policy of reviewing such applications and assigning an appropriate rating based on review by the Commitee.

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EAST COAST SAILING ASSOCIATION

PHRF COMMITTEE MEETING

May 7, 2007

 MINUTES

 The meeting was called to order at 5:30 PM.

Attendees:

·         Jim Miller, Chairman

·         Hasty Miller, Chief Handicapper

·          Larry Ethridge, Melbourne Yacht Club

·         Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht ClubDave

 Guests Gary Smith, Art Ahrens, Jim Edwards, Del Wiese and John Fox.

 The following action was taken by the Committee.

1.        The PHRF Spreadsheet was discussed. A new spreadsheet is being finalized by Jim Yates and should be posted soon.

2.        The J 24 rating was discussed. It was decided that the Base Boat Rating was fine as is but the J 24 sailed by Dave Noble would have to be reviewed based on stated modifications.

3.        The request for review of the Laser 28 non-spinnaker rating was reviewed. Based on the adjustment using spinnaker girth no adjustment was warranted. Rating remains the same.

4.        Art Ahrens appealed the PHRF credits contained in the current rule. Of most concern were the Dacron sail, roller furling and undersized headsail credits. A discussion followed with input from Jim Miller regarding their history and a similar presentation by Hasty Miller. The concern expressed was that such credits not be allowed at major regattas. Although no formal action was taken at the meeting the Committee will look at how the credits are assigned to make sure they are appropriate.

5.        Larry Ethridge presented preliminary data on variable ratings. This data will be looked at again by the Committee to determine what factors are appropriate.

 

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                                           ECSA Rating Committee Meeting
                                                  Tuesday, May 16, 2006

I    The members of the PHRF Committee in attendance were introduced as follows:            

Jim Miller, Chairman
Hasty Miller, Chief Measurer,  Melbourne Yacht Club
Michael Nulf, Indian River Yacht Club
Jim Yates, ECSA
Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club

II     The PHRF Meeting centered around the items included in the Revised PHRF Policy which was available for review.  These items included the following:

1.   Mainsail Girth Measurements – There was some discussion of the mainsail girth measurements and some corrections made to the upper 7/8 girth measurement.

2.    Removal of limitation on full battens

3.    Spinnaker Adjustment

4.    Genoa Adjustments

5.    Mainsail adjustments

6.     Whisker Pole Definition (same definition as spinnaker pole)

7.     Modifications to the policy can be made at any regularly scheduled meeting

The complete Policy is being reviewed and will be circulated to all and posted on the ECSA Web Site as soon as completed.

III    There was a general review of how modifications are handled by the PHRF Committee.  Any modification to a boat must be reported to the PHRF Committee.  Any such modifications not spelled out in the rule are circulated to the members of the PHRF Committee.  Any member of the Committee may ask to have these items put on the agenda for further discussion.  There was a request that these modification notifications be made available to the general membership.  The PHRF Rating Committee agreed to continue the present policy as stated above.

IV    There was a discussion of the extension of the mast crane on the Wavelength 24 Whattaride.  The extended mast crane was brought to the attention of the Rating Committee.  After extensive discussion it was agreed that this modification did not incur a rating penalty.  This was based on modifications to similar boats and the variance in the types of mast cranes on existing boats.  It was agreed that the mast crane did not in itself incur a penalty since the main benefit was to increase main sail area which is limited by our current rule amendment on mainsail girths.

 

ECSA Rating Committee Meeting
Monday, December 12, 2005 at MYC, 6pm

Agenda

I    Catalina 22 Rating

There will be a  PHRF Committee Meeting on Dec. 12, MYC at 6:00PM.  The only agenda item is the Catalina 22 Rating. 

 

ECSA Rating Committee Meeting
Monday, November 14, 2005 at MYC, 6pm

AGENDA

I           Introduction Of Members
II          General Open Forum
III         Old Business

            Multiple Rating System
            Spinnaker Adjustment
            Mainsail Adjustments/Battens/Headboards
            PHRF Policy Changes
            Catalina 22

IV         New Business

            Rig Modifications/Masthead Flickers
            Rating Adjustments
            Measurement Committee - Chief Measurer/Handicapper

PHRF Committee Members

Jim Miller, Chairman
Jim Edwards,  Melbourne Yacht Club
Heie Simonsen, Titusville Yacht Club
Michael Nulf, Indian River Yacht Club
Jim Yates, ECSA
Mary Anne Ward, Cocoa Beach Yacht Club
Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club
Dave Summers, Kennedy Point Yacht Club

 

ECSA Rating Committee Meeting
Wednesday, August 15, 2005 at MYC

The next PHRF Meeting will be held August 15, 6:00 PM
at Melbourne Yacht Club. 
The Agenda will be finalized by August 12.
Any agenda items can be submitted to me in the next two weeks.

The following is the preliminary agenda:
 
1.    Catalina 22
2.    Catalina 27
3.    Genoa Adjustments
4.    Mainsail Adjustments
5.    Mainsail Battens/Headboards
6.    Rig Modifications
7.    Rating Adjustments

 

ECSA Rating Committee Meeting
Tuesday, January 25, 2005 at MYC

MEETING SUMMARY

I               The members of the PHRF Committee in attendance were introduced as follows: 

Jim Miller, Chairman
Jim Edwards, Melbourne Yacht Club
Michael Nulf, Indian River Yacht Club
Jim Yates, ECSA
Tom Knowlton, Eau Gallie Yacht Club

II         There was continued discussion of the Multiple Rating System.  This is also being developed by South Florida PHRF.  Ratings will be adjusted for types of courses.  ECSA will be running Olympic Triangle Courses so this is less of a problem immediately.

III         There was a brief discussion of the Catalina 22 Rating.  It was concluded that the rating issued by PHRFSEF was correct and would have been the same in our area.  They have requested a rating for their class sails only.

IV         There was a brief discussion of the Cirripedia Cup Rules.  No changes were suggested and it would appear the rules will remain as currently printed.

V          There was discussion of the application of a variable Non-Spinnaker Rating.  We reviewed the formula used by several PHRF Stations.  The Committee concluded that this was a good idea but that more information was needed.  We agreed to consider the data and vote by E-mail at a later date. 

            Subsequent to the meeting Jim Yates did some additional searching and found that the areas using a sliding adjustment were using two basic formulas.  The simplistic formula was easily understood but did not handle the Asymmetrical boats very well.  A more complicated derivation of this formula did handle this issue.  The two formulas were circulated for review with all agreeing on the more complicated formula.  This will result in a modification to the PHRF Rules which will be forthcoming.

            The formula to be used is summarized as follows:

Symmetrical Spinnakers:

(0.028*(0.95*Square Root of (I squared + J squared))* J * (Buoy Rating + 546))/Rated Sail Area

Asymmetrical Spinnakers:

(0.028*(1.15*Square Root of (Ic squared + Jc squared))* Jc * (Buoy Rating + 546))/Rated Sail Area 

Where: Ic and Jc are the Spinnaker I and J.

The resulting ratings were sent out for circulation and also reviewed at the ECSA River Race Kickoff Meeting on February 5, 2005.  These will go into effect immediately.  See here for the list

Due to the fact that we are making changes to the Data Base it will require changes to the Certificates.  We will not be issuing new certificates at this time.  The Data Base on file and on the Web Site will represent the official source of all ratings.  If in the future you require a Certificate we will issue you one.  For most of us this will not be necessary.

If there are any questions regarding this please let me or one of the PHRF Committee members know.

Thanks,

Jim Miller, Chairman

PHRFECSA 

 

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